Is Guild Wars worth it for the Carebear player? - Guild Wars Forums

Rathmaker · May 16, 2010, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Hello there! I have played many MMOs over the years, but I have never tried Guild Wars. Just recently the local Wal-Mart I work at started to carry a Guild Wars complete collection that contains all the Guild Wars games for $40.00. It has got me interested into looking into GW.

The one major concern I have is that whether Guild Wars has enough content to keep a player that is almost entirely PvE oriented interested in the game for a long period of time. I love to explore a world, and experience a story when playing a game. I am not a huge fan of PvP (although if I found it fun that could possibly change in the future

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Does Guild Wars have alot to keep a player satisfied at the end game, or is it mainly just PvP at the end?

Thanks!

Rathmaker

Mintha Syl · May 16, 2010, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Welcome

I can only say, if you like to roam around and explore like you said this game is really good for you. Also, I think the story is one of the most articulated ones I've seen in a mmorpg. Sure it's not always solid but it's good enough and articulated if you also want to do secondary quests and everything else that has a place in lore.
And, if you look around, there's a lot of people whos' playing since the realise. Most complain there's not much to do after 5 years but well...it's 5 years

As for me I play from almost an year and I'm still at the beginning, and counting I only do pve...if you don't want to rush ahed there's really a lot of content!
I hope you're buying it, it's worth it in my opinion.

Aeronwen · May 16, 2010, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Well I am a pve player who is still happy after 4 years, I still have a lot I want to do.

I guess it all depends on you really. I would say go for it, its a great game.

vandevere · May 16, 2010, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Right now, I think it's one of the better games out there for the PVE-type gamer...

Rathmaker · May 16, 2010, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Thanks for the replies! I must say that, from what i heard from fellow guild members in other games (WoW, LOTRO, etc.) I had a preconception of Guild Wars being PvP, but I am glad to see my first impressions of that is wrong.

The Josip · May 16, 2010, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by Rathmaker

Thanks for the replies! I must say that, from what i heard from fellow guild members in other games (WoW, LOTRO, etc.) I had a preconception of Guild Wars being PvP, but I am glad to see my first impressions of that is wrong.

I bought GW for PvP mostly, but PvP is just a very small segment of Guild Wars. And I don't think your fellow guild members even played GW.

Shayne Hawke · May 16, 2010, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Rathmaker

Thanks for the replies! I must say that, from what i heard from fellow guild members in other games (WoW, LOTRO, etc.) I had a preconception of Guild Wars being PvP, but I am glad to see my first impressions of that is wrong.

Guild Wars has particularly less-than-stellar high end PvP at the moment, and most of the attention as of late has been on PvE updates.

There's enough PvE content in the game to keep you playing without becoming bored for maybe one to two years, depending on how much time you put into it and how fast you go through it, and enough grind in the game to keep you in for another two to three, again depending on how much time you spend on it.

Eragon Zarroc · May 16, 2010, 08:41 PM // 20:41

You will love the pve

Guild wars has rich stories for all of the campaigns and there is even a title that you can get for exploring 100% of the continents.

There are many people who only play the pve and never even go into pvp. Titles, quests, and missions will keep you interested in guild wars for a long time ;-).

caballo_oscuro · May 16, 2010, 08:41 PM // 20:41

many people get thousands of hours out of characters. I'm playing more than 4 years, still haven't done everything i want to and I rarely play pvp if ever. there's tonnes to do in pve.

There's 3 campaigns and an expansion which each have a storyline. there's a bonus mission pack with 4 extra missions with cool weapons. There's dozens of titles, several major end-game missions, hard mode, there's a set of bonus missions with an extra hero you get if you have the three campaigns.

In EoTN, there's a series of replayable dungeons and three side games, polymock, norn fighting tournament and dwarven brawling.

There's Challenge missions across the battle isles, in factions, nightfall and eotn with their own rewards.

There's loads of elite armour sets to acquire, loads of weapons, 26 heroes whose armour can be customised. characters who have Ranger as primary or secondary can acquire pets who can be levelled up and trained. They can be stored at the zaishen menagerie in the battle isles so all your characters can benefit from these pets.

There's also miniature characters of many of the creatures in the game, most of which are given as gifts at your character's birthday, but you can trade these with other people.

Oh and there's daily quests as well. And regular seasonal events like celebrating halloween and xmas, and weekend events which give you bonuses towards titles for instance.

Oh and there's books to record your progress on each campaign which you can submit for rewards towards titles and for money.

And there's exclusive weapons you can get only when your character completes a campaign.

And the Hall of Monuments in EoTN will have as yet unannounced rewards for characters in Guild Wars 2.

So yeah, tonnes of things you can do. You'll be kept busy for a while!

byteme! · May 16, 2010, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by Rathmaker

Does Guild Wars have alot to keep a player satisfied at the end game, or is it mainly just PvP at the end?

That's one thing you won't have to worry about. GW's PvE > PvP scene by a very very sizable margin.

MaTTTiMeX · May 16, 2010, 08:54 PM // 20:54

I apologize for somewhat hijacking the thread, but my question pertains to this persons as well, it sounds like there is a TON of PvE content. But my main question is, what is here at end-game? Are there raids similar to WoW or LoTRO?

snaek · May 16, 2010, 09:01 PM // 21:01

^gw offers ton of pve content, but (imo) wow offers better end-game content.

regarding pvp, gw used to be very pvp-oriented when it was originally released. today however, that is not the case.

The Josip · May 16, 2010, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by MaTTTiMeX

I apologize for somewhat hijacking the thread, but my question pertains to this persons as well, it sounds like there is a TON of PvE content. But my main question is, what is here at end-game? Are there raids similar to WoW or LoTRO?

Guild Wars endgame begins after few days of gameplay. Entire GW PvE is basically endgame.

magao · May 16, 2010, 09:06 PM // 21:06

High-end ("Elite") areas and Hard Mode (that's the entire game including missions) are the two main endgame things, but (especially in Prophecies) there are many areas that the main storyline doesn't take you to and you can just explore.

And if you want to, there's also plenty of grind stuff (titles of various types) but it's entirely optional.

I've been playing for 3 years and still haven't finished Eye of the North (though I've finished the 3 campaigns multiple times each). I also find that I'll leave GW for a month or two, then come back and it's still fun.

snaek · May 16, 2010, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by The Josip

Guild Wars endgame begins after few days of gameplay. Entire GW PvE is basically endgame.

thats not true... yes, you obtain max level (20) very early in the game, but being lvl 20 =/= end game.

Rhamia Darigaz · May 16, 2010, 09:36 PM // 21:36

If you're not interested in the story, or you've already completed it, the PvE sucks. There's very minimal character development; the design philosophy of the game is to be able to easily create a max-power character and then grow as a player. This works fine when your opponent is challenging and evolving with you, as in PvP (ideally), but PvE is just a series of monsters with different skills, all controlled by a predictable pushover of an AI. The bulk of end-game PvE consists of playing dress-up with your character or farming titles in hope that they will have any significance in Guild Wars 2, or that other people will respect you for them. Also, unless you have a group of friends that also plays, you'll be doing this alone or with jaded, unforgiving strangers.
Having said that, if you just want to explore the world and enjoy a new game, It's probably worth the $40.

Gabriel of Ravn · May 16, 2010, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by snaek

thats not true... yes, you obtain max level (20) very early in the game, but being lvl 20 =/= end game.

This is very true if now days I start a new character I'll work to get it level 20 just to be able to do actual things like the Elite Areas and Dungeons so once you hit level 20 then you can really start having fun with that character.

Skyy High · May 16, 2010, 09:52 PM // 21:52

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Guild Wars has particularly less-than-stellar high end PvP at the moment

Depends what you compare it to, IMO.

FoxBat · May 16, 2010, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Depends what you compare it to, IMO.

Yeah. Even it's current state, no RPG comes close for organized play quality.

Of course that doesn't touch on the weakness of the casual formats, or how hard it is to organize teams of 8 people for long matches.

Bristlebane · May 16, 2010, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Another good aspect of GW PvE is that you can take breaks much more easily than many other games. It's very quick to login and out, if you bring hench/heroes you can take breaks for hours (just be careful of not getting ambushed by roaming enemies), and after years of playing.. taking 2-3 months break is just as easily because you have no monthly fees to pay. So even if you play 1 hour a week or 20 hours a week, you can enjoy the game just as much.

May 16, 2010, 08:00 PM // 20:00	#1
Rathmaker Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2010	Is Guild Wars worth it for the Carebear player? Hello there! I have played many MMOs over the years, but I have never tried Guild Wars. Just recently the local Wal-Mart I work at started to carry a Guild Wars complete collection that contains all the Guild Wars games for $40.00. It has got me interested into looking into GW. The one major concern I have is that whether Guild Wars has enough content to keep a player that is almost entirely PvE oriented interested in the game for a long period of time. I love to explore a world, and experience a story when playing a game. I am not a huge fan of PvP (although if I found it fun that could possibly change in the future . Does Guild Wars have alot to keep a player satisfied at the end game, or is it mainly just PvP at the end? Thanks! Rathmaker

May 16, 2010, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#9
caballo_oscuro Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Aura	many people get thousands of hours out of characters. I'm playing more than 4 years, still haven't done everything i want to and I rarely play pvp if ever. there's tonnes to do in pve. There's 3 campaigns and an expansion which each have a storyline. there's a bonus mission pack with 4 extra missions with cool weapons. There's dozens of titles, several major end-game missions, hard mode, there's a set of bonus missions with an extra hero you get if you have the three campaigns. In EoTN, there's a series of replayable dungeons and three side games, polymock, norn fighting tournament and dwarven brawling. There's Challenge missions across the battle isles, in factions, nightfall and eotn with their own rewards. There's loads of elite armour sets to acquire, loads of weapons, 26 heroes whose armour can be customised. characters who have Ranger as primary or secondary can acquire pets who can be levelled up and trained. They can be stored at the zaishen menagerie in the battle isles so all your characters can benefit from these pets. There's also miniature characters of many of the creatures in the game, most of which are given as gifts at your character's birthday, but you can trade these with other people. Oh and there's daily quests as well. And regular seasonal events like celebrating halloween and xmas, and weekend events which give you bonuses towards titles for instance. Oh and there's books to record your progress on each campaign which you can submit for rewards towards titles and for money. And there's exclusive weapons you can get only when your character completes a campaign. And the Hall of Monuments in EoTN will have as yet unannounced rewards for characters in Guild Wars 2. So yeah, tonnes of things you can do. You'll be kept busy for a while! Last edited by caballo_oscuro; May 16, 2010 at 08:47 PM // 20:47..

May 16, 2010, 09:36 PM // 21:36	#16
Rhamia Darigaz Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2008	If you're not interested in the story, or you've already completed it, the PvE sucks. There's very minimal character development; the design philosophy of the game is to be able to easily create a max-power character and then grow as a player. This works fine when your opponent is challenging and evolving with you, as in PvP (ideally), but PvE is just a series of monsters with different skills, all controlled by a predictable pushover of an AI. The bulk of end-game PvE consists of playing dress-up with your character or farming titles in hope that they will have any significance in Guild Wars 2, or that other people will respect you for them. Also, unless you have a group of friends that also plays, you'll be doing this alone or with jaded, unforgiving strangers. Having said that, if you just want to explore the world and enjoy a new game, It's probably worth the $40. Last edited by Rhamia Darigaz; May 16, 2010 at 09:38 PM // 21:38..

May 16, 2010, 08:10 PM // 20:10	#2
Mintha Syl Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2010	Welcome I can only say, if you like to roam around and explore like you said this game is really good for you. Also, I think the story is one of the most articulated ones I've seen in a mmorpg. Sure it's not always solid but it's good enough and articulated if you also want to do secondary quests and everything else that has a place in lore. And, if you look around, there's a lot of people whos' playing since the realise. Most complain there's not much to do after 5 years but well...it's 5 years As for me I play from almost an year and I'm still at the beginning, and counting I only do pve...if you don't want to rush ahed there's really a lot of content! I hope you're buying it, it's worth it in my opinion.

May 16, 2010, 08:25 PM // 20:25	#3
Aeronwen not so much fell as..... Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Guild: bone Profession: R/	Well I am a pve player who is still happy after 4 years, I still have a lot I want to do. I guess it all depends on you really. I would say go for it, its a great game.

May 16, 2010, 08:30 PM // 20:30	#4
vandevere Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Great State of Denial Profession: W/Mo	Right now, I think it's one of the better games out there for the PVE-type gamer...

May 16, 2010, 08:34 PM // 20:34	#5
Rathmaker Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2010	Thanks for the replies! I must say that, from what i heard from fellow guild members in other games (WoW, LOTRO, etc.) I had a preconception of Guild Wars being PvP, but I am glad to see my first impressions of that is wrong.

May 16, 2010, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#8
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	You will love the pve Guild wars has rich stories for all of the campaigns and there is even a title that you can get for exploring 100% of the continents. There are many people who only play the pve and never even go into pvp. Titles, quests, and missions will keep you interested in guild wars for a long time ;-).

May 16, 2010, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#11
MaTTTiMeX Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: R/Mo	I apologize for somewhat hijacking the thread, but my question pertains to this persons as well, it sounds like there is a TON of PvE content. But my main question is, what is here at end-game? Are there raids similar to WoW or LoTRO?

May 16, 2010, 09:01 PM // 21:01	#12
snaek Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: N/	^gw offers ton of pve content, but (imo) wow offers better end-game content. regarding pvp, gw used to be very pvp-oriented when it was originally released. today however, that is not the case.

May 16, 2010, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#14
magao Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia Guild: Order of Pussycat Mountain [OPCM] Profession: N/	High-end ("Elite") areas and Hard Mode (that's the entire game including missions) are the two main endgame things, but (especially in Prophecies) there are many areas that the main storyline doesn't take you to and you can just explore. And if you want to, there's also plenty of grind stuff (titles of various types) but it's entirely optional. I've been playing for 3 years and still haven't finished Eye of the North (though I've finished the 3 campaigns multiple times each). I also find that I'll leave GW for a month or two, then come back and it's still fun.

May 16, 2010, 10:30 PM // 22:30	#20
Bristlebane Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: Mo/	Another good aspect of GW PvE is that you can take breaks much more easily than many other games. It's very quick to login and out, if you bring hench/heroes you can take breaks for hours (just be careful of not getting ambushed by roaming enemies), and after years of playing.. taking 2-3 months break is just as easily because you have no monthly fees to pay. So even if you play 1 hour a week or 20 hours a week, you can enjoy the game just as much.